Robert Brice

Male 1613 - 1676  (63 years)

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  • Name Robert Brice  [1, 2
    Born 1613  Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3
    Gender Male 
    Died 22 Nov 1676  Dublin, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3
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      From tombstone in Ballicarry Churchyard, Parish of Ballcorran:

      "His son Robert Brice, Esq. after acquiring a fortune dyed in Dublin 22 Nov. 1676, aged 63 & left 8 sons and 8 daughters..."

      From letter of Robert Herron:

      "His eldest son, Robert, resided at Castle Chichester. In November, 1676, he died in Dublin, aged 63. By his wife, Elizabeth, who died Jan., 1704, he had three sons and three daughters (one dau married Thomas Knox, sons Hugh, Randal and Edward are mentioned by name with data available under their names.)....

      About 1720, Capt. Charles Brice, an illegitimate son of Robert by ___Robinson, resided at Castle Chichester. He is said to have married a Miss Curry, by whom he had three sons, viz: Edward, Robert, and Arthur, and two daughters, one of whom, Dorothy, was married to ___Ennis of Dromantine, Co. Down. Charles is reported to have died about 1746. Edward married Katherine, daughter of George Straight, Carrickfergus, in Sept. 1779. Their daughter, Prudence, was married to George Bateson of London. In 1761, Edward was surveyor of the part of Belfast, and agent for the French prisoners kept in that town. He died in Castle Chichester, July, 1796. Robert entered into the Royal Navy, was promoted to the rank of admiral and was also created a baronet. He married in England, Miss Kingsmill, by whom he attained a large fortune on assuming her name, which name his brother, Edward, took soon after.

      Sir Robert died at Sidmonston, Hampshire, Nov. 22, 1805, in his 75th year. He left no issue. Arthur was an officer in the Guards and retained the name of Brice.

      . . .

      Henry Maxwell of Finnybroque, Esq., eldest son of Henry, by Jane, daughter of Robert Echlin, Bishop of down and Connor, married for his second wife, Dorothy, daughter of Robert Brice of Killroot, Esq., by whom he had Robert, his heir; Edward, Col. of the 67th Reg. of Foot; and one daughter, Margaret, married to James Adair of London, Esq., by whom she had James, on of his Majesty's Sargeant at law, and Recorder of the City of London. In 1831, Edward Brice of the above family, changed his name to that of Bruce, and in 1823, died in London, aged 51. Sir Robert Kingsmill of Bart. of Action Co. of Gloucester, the son of Edward Kingsmill of Belfast, Esq. by Katherine, daughter of George Spaight, Esq. He succeeded his uncle, Sir Robert Kingsmill, the first Baronet, who died in 1805.

      The Earl of Donegal had been first elected but was not approved of by the privy council. Willoughby Chaplin and Edward Brice then set up of mayor and both were returned, but neither approved of. A third election was then held by George Spaight, deputy recorder, at which election Mr. Brice was returned by the court. Willoughby Chaplin petitioned the privy council against said return, which came to a trial of the 23rd of Nov. but the council ruled Willoughby Chaplin continued.
      From _History of the Brice Family_ by George Wilson Brice of Charlotte, NC in 1944:

      " His (Edward Brice) eldest son, Robert, resided at Castle Chichester, but died in Dublin, aged 63. By Robert's wife, Elizabeth, who died in 1704, he had three sons and three daughters. One of the daughters married Thomas Knox, who is said to have been a member of the first Scotch family to move to Ireland. "

      From:_The Brice Family_ by L.S. Brice, John de la Howe School, McCormick, SC, 1956

      "His (Edward Brice's) eldest son Robert, resided at Castle Chichester. In November 1676, he died in Dublin, aged 63. By his wife Elizabeth, who died January , 1704, he had three sons and three daughters, one of whom was married to Thomas Knox, the first of the Northland family who came to Ireland. Hugh, son of Robert, died 1687, aged 24. In 1675, his brother Rondall was High Sheriff of County Antrim and in 1698 was one of the representatives for the borough of Lisburn.


      _Castle Chichester, Whitehead_ by Francis Joseph Bigger, M.R.I.A (from Felfast News-Letter, Saturday, October 21, 1922)

      The only "relic of old decency" remaining at present in the popular and favourite waterplace of Whitehead is Castle Chichester. It is not old as the pyramids of Egypt or the Irish Round Towers go, but it is over 300 years since its hoary stones were first set up with mortar where Islandmagee joins the mainland. One Moses Hill, a lieutenant in Sir Arthur Chichester's troop of horse, is credited with its construction, doubtless to maintain and confirm Chichester's new acquisition of the fertile slopes of Islandmagee, for the MacDonnell power was not entirely broken in the Glens nor their claims abated. Moses had suffered rout and defeat at their hands, and Chichester's brother had lost his head in the woods of Altfracken to a MacDonnell sword stroke, no matter how his alabaster effigy in Carrick's old church might look to the contrary. Sir Moses, as he became, thus exercised a careful discretion, little knowing that by so doing, he was helping to establish his race so firmly in Ulster that in future years the best of "the ransomed hills of Down" from Lagan water to Newry river were to be the heritage of the Marquis of Downshire, for a few generations at any rate, until they would fall back again into the hands of those who tilled them.

      Sir Moses called his stronghold, Castle Chichester, after his chief, just as Chichester called his big mansion at Carrickfergus, Joymount, in honor of his commander Lord Mountjoy, as the great fort on the banks of Lough Neagh was also named. Charlemont was named after Sir Charles Blount, afterwards Lord Mountjoy, and we have other more recent similar appellations, such as Jennymount and Dollymount. this Islandmagee Castle was sometimes called the Marshall's Castle, Sir Moses Hill being Provost Marshall of Ulster. A manor was created and known as the Manor of Castle Chichester, including the lands of Portmuck, Islandmagee, Drumalis and Olderfleet. Some trade grew up around the Castle in the seventeenth century principally with Scotland, and mails were frequently despatched to Portpatrick, on the coast of Galloway, and cattle shipped there for such commodities were more plentiful in Ulster than across the channel, then as now. The less legitimate trade was carried to the caves and ports of Islandmagee and was as profitable, or more so, than the open ventures under the walls of Castle Chichester. The caves of Islandmagee were well known to Sir Moses, for he had stampeded there to hide in safety for sometime, after the successful MacDonnell onslaught at Altfracken. Hill's Cave is still known, and there are Hill's in Islandmagee at the present day, but the Magees were wiped out at the Gebbin Cliffs in 1641.

      Sir William Brereton mentions having passed over from "the Portpatrick" to Islandmagee in 1636, just as many thousands of Scotch settlers did for years and years of that century, to inhabit the fertile lands of Antrim and Down, and trade in the fast rising town of Belfast. ROBERT BRICE occupied the Castle for sometime, being a prosperous trader with the land of his origin, issuing trade tokens in 1671 with the inscription "Robert Brice, Castle Chichester." He died in 1676, after adding to his wealth by a prosperous sojourn in Dublin, being succeeded by his son Hugh. Robert's father was the Rev. Edward Brice, the first Presbyterian minister of Ballycarry. He showed an easy aptitude, ably assisted by the education and upbringing of a comfortable manse, of meeting a situation of much promise, and adapting himself thoroughly to prosperous business activities. In 1720 Charles Brice was in the Castle, and the last Brice who resided, and died there in 1796, was Edward Brice, Surveyor of the Port of Belfast. Subsequently it was occupied as a coast guard station before it became what it now is, simply a feature of the landscape.
    Person ID I0432  Hull | Descendants of Pierre Mesney
    Last Modified 18 Oct 2009 

    Father Edward Brice,   b. 1569, Airth, Stirlingshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1636, Ballycarry, Co. Antrim, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 67 years) 
    Family ID F139  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Elizabeth,   d. Jan 1703/04 
     1. Edward Brice,   b. 1669, Kilroot, Co. Antrim, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1742  (Age 73 years)
    Family ID F138  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Sources 
    1. [S02949] The Pedigree....of Brice, Ulster King of Arms of All Ireland, (1837 (includes documentation from 1693)).

    2. [S03436] chance.FTW.
      Date of Import: Dec 19, 1999

    3. [S02886] Ballycarry Churchyard.

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